I presume this is the right mailing list for this kind of thing. Just a quickie "first impressions" review since I've had these things wired up for a few hours. DCM100: 1U rackmount MIDI-controlled mixer, 8 stereo inputs (each of which can be used as a mono input, but one stereo input is *not* two mono inputs); in fact the entire mixer architecture is geared to stereo, with stereo FX sends and returns (if your outboard FX box has only mono in, you're a bit screwed since it'll only effect one side of the send). Pan is just L/R attenuation. Each channel has low and high EQ (100Hz, 10kHz), -15/+15dB. The EQ is actually quite nice for what it does, but it is basically just bass and treble. What else: two effects buses (postfade), BUT each channel can only send to one or the other, not both. I've circumvented this by bringing some FX returns through other channels (of which I now have plenty to spare). Otherwise, the aux bus architecture is as you'd expect: level per channel, master send levels, return EQ (as for the channels) and levels. Physically: quite a deep 1U rack (14" or so), everything done via mono jacks so things are quite cramped on the back. The only controls are trim pots on the front (which are actually quite hot: line level inputs are generally well normalised at the lowest setting) and power switch. There's a twin multi-segment LED for level (-10dB..+6). This is output bus level; there's no input monitoring or clip LED's, which is a shame. The front of the unit is a plastic shell, rather flimsy looking/feeling. MixTab: A fader box, basically. Eight channels (stereo ones), plus FX send/return controls, master volume. There are pushbuttons for aux select per channel (aux 1/2) and for channel mute. The faders have about a 2" throw, maybe a little more; everything else is buttons + knobs. Oh: the MixTab also allows scene recall and selection. The scenes (100 of them) are stored in the DCM, *not* the MixTab. The DCM's take patch changes (audio changes are then immediate, not faded), and the MixTab knows how to request and store current setups. The MixTab is purely a MIDI controller, but with some interesting wrinkles. Every control carries a two-colour LED (VRL: Value Recognition LED, sic.). The LED flashes red if the MixTab control is over the DCM setting, green if below, with blink rate indicating degree of disagreement. The MixTab has a choice of pickup modes for matching and then changing settings. The scheme isn't too bad to use. I'd say it'd be fine for one DCM, but it's perhaps a little difficult to get used to when driving two. (So, if that's a hassle, buy two MixTabs.) I intend to run a MAX program between the MixTab and DCM's to give me clearer readouts, and provide sub-scenes, algorithmic mixing and stuff. (For that matter, a MixTab would make a decent generic MIDI controller source under MAX. Hmm. Maybe an analogue sequencer panel?) A MixTab can drive three DCM's (on consecutive MIDI channels). When selecting a different DCM, the MixTab requests the (new) DCM's state and indicates discrepancies on its LED's. You get used to the flashing lights (assuming your brain hasn't be totally blown by the MixTab's psychadelic power-up sequence). There's some zippering when changing volume levels and clicks when muting non-zero volumes, so you have to keep volume fades slowish. The DCM's carry a programmable smoothing function for this, but I didn't notice it doing much. Physically the MixTab controls are good, with pretty decent faders. The pushbuttons are the only naff part: shallow travel and flimsy feel, like patch buttons on cheap synths. Neither the MixTab nor the DCM100 has any kind of SysEx implementation. EVERYTHING is controllers, including store and recall request. A bulk dump is a screed of controller messages. Oh, the DCM's also take patch changes - that's it. Great for MAX hackers like me, a blow for generic librarians. Oh, if you're running two DCM's you'll need a MIDI merger: each DCM needs to be able to transmit status back into the MixTab. Onto the audio stuff. Line inputs only. As I said, inputs seem a little high; not enough attenuation for some sources, perhaps. You'll want to ride the levels high anyway (+3/+6dB) to keep the S/N high. The DCM's seem to have very low distortion and take high levels fairly well. Aux send levels are perhaps a little low at top wack, which is a shame if you're trying to FX a low signal and keep S/N good on the aux loop. Two (or more) DCM's are ganged together by using main and aux bus ins and outs: three stereo signals. I'm actually ganging aux1 (MIDIverb II) across both mixers, with aux2 local to each (QuadraVerb on one, LXP-5 on other). One annoying thing is that the stereo bus levels aren't matched: mixer 1 appears about 6dB hot when it arrives on the bus to mixer 2 (which means it's 6dB noisier of course), and the bus input can't be attenuated. I don't know if the aux bus ganging has the same problem. I might have to bring mixer 1 down a channel or aux return to mixer 2 to get round this. Sound quality: no real complaints. Were I a real Hi-Fi propellor-head I might comment about a very slight loss in the upper-midrange, or a tiny muddying of the bouquet of the frequency response near the top, but these seem pretty mild for a mixer of this class. I've been playing CD's through it without noticing any loss of quality. OK then: hands up those who were worried about the 78dB S/N ratio? Go to the top of the class. Actually, the jury is still out here; I've only had the units wired up for a few hours, and the entire studio is currently in piles on the floor pending arrival of a couple of SKB racks, so I'm currently chasing down hum and noise problems just like we seem to do in all the Team Metlay sessions. ("OK Nick, stop that a second] Now do it again. Stop it again... Hey guys, I've found the source of that hum, it's Nick's bagel.") All my rack units are just stacked up, so they're earthing against each other via the case screws, and the two rack-mounted Quantum disks for the sampler make a quite exquisite variety of line noise when powered up unless the Peavey and MicroWave are set to the same volume (gnnnnn). Perhaps it's an obvious observation, but I guess a problem with rackmount mixers (MIDI'ed or otherwise) is their proximity to other audio gear and noise sources. I'd be REALLY interested to hear if this is a common problem with (say) Ranes and suchlike, or whether the DCM's are susceptible to this, which would be a drawback with them. I won't know until things are properly racked and I've spent some time balancing levels and investigating properly. My general feeling though is that the DCM's are a touch hissy. I don't think I'd want to mix and master a commercial album through them, and I'd be wary of running them in complex submix arrangements, but for the applications I have in mind (live performance and some recording) the noise floor is fine... but only if I can keep the noise floor down and eliminate the problems I've got at present. A lot of it comes down to maximising send levels and minimising return levels, and obvious woogy-woogy like that (I say "obvious", but the fact that all sends are postfade makes such things nontrivial sometimes), but apart from that I won't know how good the final S/N is until things are racked and balanced properly. If anyone's interested I'll report back when it's done. I can't really draw conclusions until I've got everything balanced and know the effective S/N. The main drawbacks (as far as I can see) are the lack of unity between ganged mixers, and problems getting hot aux signals to outboard FX on attenuated channels. The compromises in the architecture are minor. The benefits are major: 8 stereo channels in a 1U space, and total recall and automation via a quite respectable control module, plus loads of performance and control possibilities using something like MAX. With the arrival of an MTP-II tomorrow, I'm close to realising the CASSIEL Live Rig '93: two SKB racks, each carrying a DCM and a MIDI Time Piece. Each rack has a PowerBook, one running MAX, one running Performer, so that each can see the entire rig and the other PowerBook. Each rack takes a MIDI control cable (RS424) and mains input and delivers stereo output. Add a seven-cable snake between the racks (mixer gang, plus MKS-70 feed to both mixers, plus RS424) and that's it for external cabling. Clever, huh? Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk